Auto-Rx Customers Questions & Answers

I'm not too sure if Honda A.T.F. have the same specification as Europe Ford Scorpio MK II ?

I have checked up the Honda data base and this what I found - 

specification Honda ATF-Z1 P/N 08200-9001 ?

Look at the 'Automatic Gearbox A4LDE' problem page  - 

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/faultfinds.htm

Ford Scorpio MK II Auto-Box specification 

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/a4lde.htm

and click onto the word that takes you to another link for problem solving. 

HTH.







-- Edited by ForeverFord at 07:54, 2009-01-07

Sorry, my mistake, I used the honda ATF for flushing the old fluid out prior to installing the new filter etc. It's got dexron 3 in there now and the auto-rx.

It's whining it's head off, and as I say only started yesterday prior to putting the auto-rx in. The box has been perfect and has coverfed 1000 miles trouble free prior to adding the auto-rx. The auto-rx has been in there for about 200 miles.

You have two different chemistries in your gear box. You need to clean out your gear box again. Auto-Rx is being asked to do its cleaning in a two chemical unit. Auto-Rx can't hurt anything however you need to drain out this transmission fluid and start over.

It seems almost certain there is still Honda ATF in there, I agree when everyone says get the fluid changed again and go from there.

Panthermike wrote:

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It seems almost certain there is still Honda ATF in there, I agree when everyone says get the fluid changed again and go from there.

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When I did Auto-Rx in the transmission there was no shifting problems, of course I used the correct fluid, this is a fluid problem, meaning the wrong fluid was used and it will be fun getting it all out.

The reason your transmission is working perfectly now is that you got the Honda trans fluid out of your transmission.

It was also working perfectly before auto-rx because you had the right transmission fluid in there.

You did not get a bad batch of auto-rx, if it is below 40 degrees or so you need to warm the bottle up like you did by putting in a bucket of hot water, in the winter time I keep my bottles of auto-rx in the house to avoid the problems that you had.

Auto-rx can only make your transmission run better and it will not make it run worse.

I would give the product some time and miles. It is not a fast-acting like a 15 minute flush. I had a hydraulic lifter tappping noise on a pushrod chevy sedan V8 that took until halfway through the second rinse phase to go away completely. This was on a severely sludged engine due to previous owner neglect. After 3 treatments, I began using synthetic oil changed every 5000 miles. But then over the next 4 oil changes, the lifter tapping slowly returned. So I recently started using a high mileage oil with a 4 oz maintenance dose and after returning home from some serious highway driving in this vehicle during the holidays, the lifter noise is completely gone again.

So my point is that unless your tapping lifter is due to a true clearance issue such as the worn out pushrods in my old Ford Ranger V6, it may take quite a few good, hot highway miles to get that hydraulic lifter fully working again.

As far as your transmission goes, auto-rx really does some cleaning in the clutches, valve body and the geartrain. While it may get a bit noisy during the 1000 mile run, it is just doing its job, and some stuff may get loosened up during this process and make things a bit noisy until the contaminants are flushed out when you change the fluid. You did what I probably would have done and just got it out of there early. But in the many automatics I have cleaned with Auto-Rx, this has not happened yet. If anything, I have left it in longer than planned with zero ill effects or noises.

Lastly, if you feel that Auto-RX has not lived up to what is claimed (after you have finished the process), talk to Frank. He wants satisfied customers. I have never wasted one penny on this product. Instead, it has saved me and my customers countless dollars that would have been wasted on unnecessary fuel consumption and repairs down the road.

-- Edited by bmwtechguy at 23:07, 2009-01-15

Panthermike wrote:

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And please remember ohms, just because your issue occured after ARX does not mean that it caused the issue.

The point is, you still have Honda ATF in your tranny which may have not shown issues immediately, it could show up after awhile. But it is the wrong fluid which can and most likely will cause issues.

I suggest you do a complete flush to get all Honda ATF out of your tranny, flush and fill w/ only dex. After that see where you are, I just don't think the ARX would cause these issues.

Don't think that you've wasted anything, as you said time will tell. In the meantime, get 100% correct fluid in your tranny.

  

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I wanted to add that I was at the Ford Delership today and I talked with a mechanic about this situation, he did not believe that anyone today would put Honda fluid in a Ford transmission, so we went to his computer and he read this post.
 
He agreed with other members here in that the problem lies with the wrong fluid being put into the transmission. The guy is 62 years old and has been a mechanic for over 40 years. He told me the reason back in the 1970's that they came out with Dexron/ Mercon trans fluid was because people were picking up Mercon and putting it in there GM vehicles and some Ford owners were picking up Dexron and putting it in there Ford vehicles.
 
Frank can correct me if I am wrong, this forum is not for talking about putting in the wrong transmission fluid and blaming auto-rx.
 
The mechanic said that the post should have been titled, Added The Wrong Transmssion Fluid But Having A Few Problems.

 

-- Edited by brent olsen at 13:33, 2009-01-16

Can't say I've ever experienced anything even negative or close to bad with Auto-Rx so far. I say that after using cases of the stuff over the years in every imaginable engine and transmission, and many pwr steering systems as well. I have put it into pwr steering systems that were seemlingly about to fail, and had pump noise go away permanently. And stiff, binding steering gears start operating smoothly. I then flush out the old fluid completely and go back with a quality, new fluid.

So you buy Auto-Rx and use it for the first time and are having nothing but trouble? I am sorry to hear that you are having problems. It just seems so unlikely based on my own experiences. And believe me, I started out very skeptical that it could live up to all the good things I was reading before my first purchase.

Have you contacted Frank yet? I am sure he would be interested to know the details.